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    Lucario....

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    Lucario....

    Post by Z-man on Mon May 31, 2010 6:43 pm

    i dont get why hes so high on the ssbb tier chart o.O i think most of his moves are terrible, and the only things good about him are his grabs, side smash, Dair, and B projectile. his up smash basically cant be used when the opponent isnt right above you, unlike pikas, falcos, metas, etc, who can dash and hit with it. also his Nair is pretty laggy, and his Uair is weak. lucarios counter can actually miss, he has a predictable recovery, and his side B is laggy and completely redundant and over shadowed by his other moves (side smash / B aura sphere). plus besides his B hes got pretty average reach at best and no spiking capability. whats your opinion? does lucario deserve the current tier spot?

    ....geez i just wrote an essay Shocked


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    Re: Lucario....

    Post by Pieguy on Mon May 31, 2010 8:16 pm

    I can either:

    1) Write an essay explaining why hes so high

    2) Post a vid of Azen, one of the best Lucarios around

    3) Do both


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    Re: Lucario....

    Post by Z-man on Mon May 31, 2010 8:23 pm

    both Suspect


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    Re: Lucario....

    Post by Pieguy on Mon May 31, 2010 8:50 pm

    -___- dammit I hate you... xD Im brawlin Topix rite now, so ill do it later thumbs up


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    Re: Lucario....

    Post by Z-man on Mon May 31, 2010 8:55 pm

    lol hey you offered both as a choice Razz


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    Re: Lucario....

    Post by Pieguy on Tue Jun 01, 2010 8:16 am

    >.>

    Lucario currently ranks 11th on the tier list, due to having a nice balance of power, speed and range, due to his aura. His recovery is also good, as it can be angled almost anywhere, and goes a decent distance. He doesnt have a direct mateor smash, but he can stage spike easily with alll of his aerials.
    He can combo with all of his moves, except his smashes and Uspecial, and he can juggle characters like Snake with 0-50% combos. Lucario also has the best charge up projectile, due to the power it can get to and the fact it can hurt opponents while charging.

    However, it has no real killing power until it gets to around 80%, which at that point, means Lucario can be killed by a powerfull smash or tilt e.g Snakes FSmash. Due to this, Lucario is clocked into the B tier.


    Azen (Lucario) vs Chillin (Snake) Offline Tourney, rounds 1+2



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    Re: Lucario....

    Post by Z-man on Tue Jun 01, 2010 10:25 am

    eh i didnt say ppl couldnt use him effectively, just that hes not that great of a char Razz and in all respects that snake was pretty spamy so... hm


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    Re: Lucario....

    Post by Pieguy on Tue Jun 01, 2010 11:12 am

    As ive said, spam doesnt matter in a competetive aspect. Plus my essay was about the character, not how people play him Razz


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    Re: Lucario....

    Post by Icefox on Tue Jun 01, 2010 11:23 am

    TIERS R 4 QUEERS -takes batterries out of wii mote and shoves one in pieguys left eye and one in zmans right eye- D:<
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    Re: Lucario....

    Post by Pieguy on Tue Jun 01, 2010 1:21 pm

    Im a Ganon main >.>


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    Re: Lucario....

    Post by Z-man on Tue Jun 01, 2010 6:39 pm

    and i have no main thumbs up (plus i pronounce tiers as "tires" so that ryme cant apply to me) Razz


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    Re: Lucario....

    Post by Z-man on Tue Jun 01, 2010 6:43 pm

    Pieguy88 wrote:As ive said, spam doesnt matter in a competetive aspect. Plus my essay was about the character, not how people play him Razz
    yea but its pretty cheap how they basically just used his A, up/side tilt, Nair, and grabs. not even once using his Fair, Dair, diwn tilt, or B attacks, and rarely doing the remaining moves i havent said. >_>


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    Re: Lucario....

    Post by Pieguy on Tue Jun 01, 2010 6:50 pm

    Quit complaining! I win argument, DONE! xD


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    Re: Lucario....

    Post by Z-man on Tue Jun 01, 2010 6:54 pm

    xD oh and its also cheap how he used the same combos over and over Razz
    but thats just my opinion whistling


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    Re: Lucario....

    Post by Pieguy on Tue Jun 01, 2010 6:55 pm

    *sigh* How come u dnt complain about me abusing nades?


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    Re: Lucario....

    Post by Z-man on Tue Jun 01, 2010 6:58 pm

    who says i dont? whistling na jk, i dont have the heart to tell someone they spam a move >_< and u dont that bad.....


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    Re: Lucario....

    Post by Pieguy on Tue Jun 01, 2010 7:02 pm

    Twisted Evil wanna brawl? im not gonna camp nades... whistling


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    Re: Lucario....

    Post by Z-man on Tue Jun 01, 2010 7:05 pm

    i thought u stopped using snake o.9
    guess i was wrong Razz


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    Re: Lucario....

    Post by Pieguy on Tue Jun 01, 2010 7:06 pm

    no, hes just not my main anymore


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    Re: Lucario....

    Post by Icefox on Tue Jun 01, 2010 9:49 pm

    doesnty lucarrio get stronger the more damage he takes?
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    Re: Lucario....

    Post by Z-man on Wed Jun 02, 2010 12:20 am

    yes he does


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    Re: Lucario....

    Post by Pieguy on Wed Jun 02, 2010 8:50 am

    Icefox wrote:doesnty lucarrio get stronger the more damage he takes?

    yes, which is another factor as to why hes highly placed


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    Re: Lucario....

    Post by Z-man on Wed Jun 02, 2010 10:18 am

    >_>


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    Re: Lucario....

    Post by Pieguy on Wed Jun 02, 2010 12:34 pm

    xP


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    Re: Lucario....

    Post by Icefox on Thu Jun 03, 2010 8:44 pm

    LOL tiers are gay .__.

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